flashlogic
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Setup for developer : NeoSD + Flexible extender + FlashAir SD

06 Jan 2019, 23:28

Hi.

I use the NeoSD mainly for developement purpose. I code and debug mainly on MAME, but it is important to test on the real hardware as much as possible, and the NeoSD is very usefull for that.

But the process is tedious, for every change in my code, I have to:
- remove the NeoSD cartridge
- remove the microSD
- insert the microSD in my computer
- transfer the new .neo file on the microSD
- remove the microSD from my computer
- insert the microSD again...

So, I am interested by simplifying of the process.

First I think about plugging a MicroSD extender like this:

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Then maybe use a Wireless Lan SD card like this one:

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Does someone know if this card can receive wireless data when plugged in the NeoSD ?

Maybe if someone wants to share a new idea.

fenikso
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Re: Setup for developer : NeoSD + Flexible extender + FlashAir SD

07 Jan 2019, 18:31

I don't know about wireless receiving SD cards, but I think the new Pro model, when it eventually comes out, is going to be a little more developer friendly. An expensive solution, to be sure.
It's high time cymbaline.

flashlogic
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Re: Setup for developer : NeoSD + Flexible extender + FlashAir SD

08 Jan 2019, 11:22

Which features of the NeoSD Pro could help me to work faster ?

fenikso
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Re: Setup for developer : NeoSD + Flexible extender + FlashAir SD

08 Jan 2019, 19:30

It's going to have 5 'slots' one of which is RAM based and a USB port that you'll be able to access and write to that RAM slot with on your PC, while it's still hooked into your AES. I feel like that should speed things up considerably for developers.

The RAM is the same size as the largest Neo games, so you shouldn't feel constrained.
Tuesday, March 6th 2018

We want to announce our new product, NEOSD PRO.

NEOSD PRO is a two in one flash cart. Having the best of two worlds, FLASH and RAM based cart.

Both NEOSD PRO and NEOSD are Neo Geo cartridge emulators, simulating all different chips present on Neo Geo cartridges, without patching original ROM data.
This makes NEOSD PRO (and NEOSD), to pass UNIBIOS CRC checks.

NEOSD PRO as regular NEOSD is 100% compatible with UNIBIOS and glitch free.


NEOSD PRO has 5x times the memory regular NEOSD has, for a total of 3.840 MBITS. So it can hold the 5 biggest Neo Geo Games at the same time.

The memory is composed by 5 independent slots :

- 4 slots of 768 MBITS (each) FLASH memory for instant-on games, summing a total of 3.072 MBITS :

Can hold 4 non-volatile, always ready, instant-on games, with enough space to hold 4 of the largest released games. Those 4 slots are persistent after the board is powered off, such as regular NEOSD and are intended to store your 4 favorite games always ready to play.


- 1 slot of 768 MBITS SRAM :

It has very fast loading times, but it's volatile, and its contents are lost when powering off the console. Same size than any of the 4 flash slots, so it can hold the largest released game. Useful to quickly play different games.




NEOSD PRO offers all the functions regular NEOSD does :

Jukebox,
Region Change
Arcade/Console Mode change
Soft Dips
…. and much more !

Plus those new features :

Straight boot to any of the 4 flash slots by holding A,B,C or D while powering on the console.

In-Game menu to change slots. Also planned is support for the slot change buttons on MVS and attract mode cycling, like a real multislot!

USB port to download games to RAM from a PC, and read/write console memory, useful for game developers.

Cheats support from the in-game menu (will be available to regular NEOSD aswel by firmware update)


NEOSD PRO contains 99% the same FPGA code than regular NEOSD, so the high compatibility we achieved remains, having a strong glitch free code. The hardware design is totally different, moving from 2 layers pcb design of actual NEOSD to 6 layers pcb design on NEOSD PRO.
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The new 6 layers pcb reduces the programming noise that can be heard with plain NeoSD in some MVS board.

NEOSD PRO Menu has no load times, its instant. So there is no need to wait for the menu to load with power on.

In order to change from one slot to another one, there is a new in game menu that also lets the user to reboot the board doing hard or soft resets, enable cheats or enter NEOSD PRO MENU.

On RAM, the same biggest game (The King Of Fighters 2003) takes just 52 seconds to flash, while some other games just take a few seconds to be written.

Those are some flashing times on RAM for reference :

aero fighters 2 - 8 seconds
windjammers - 6 seconds
metal slug - 15 seconds
art of fighting 3 - 21 seconds
breakers - 15 seconds
metal slug 2 - 25 seconds
samurai shodown 5 special - 51 seconds
shock troopers 2 - 26 seconds
strikers 1945 plus - 48 seconds

NEOSD PRO and regular NEOSD will be sold at the same time, those are different products that will have different prices. NEOSD PRO will be sold at higher Price than actual NEOSD.

We will open pre orders on the following weeks (and will announce the prices), once we have shipped Super SD System 3 pending orders that we should start shipping at the end of this week. Priority as today is to ship every Super SD System 3 pending order, before anything else

NEOSD PRO AES has finished the testing stage and entered production. It will be delivered with a new designed Shell, done by the same Factory and with the same quality as Super SD System 3 shell. It will come in a nice packaging such as Super SD System 3, including manual and box.
It's high time cymbaline.

flashlogic
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Re: Setup for developer : NeoSD + Flexible extender + FlashAir SD

08 Jan 2019, 20:52

The USB port in interesting, but I wait to see.

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